On atmospheric carbon removal: Express it in time
1️⃣ It's hard for people to visualize removing tons or billions of tons of CO₂. What if we talked about CO₂ removal (CDR) like a time machine (e.g., this machine will take us back 5 minutes*)?
— David Ho (@_david_ho_) February 3, 2022
*ignoring the hysteresis in the relationship between CO₂ and climate change impacts. pic.twitter.com/LgDlVNxziQ
2️⃣ So if global CO₂ emissions is 38.9 GtCO₂/yr, and the Climeworks Orca plant removes 4000 tCO₂/yr, it's a time machine that takes us back 3 seconds every year. pic.twitter.com/qKqlIMGMue
— David Ho (@_david_ho_) February 3, 2022
3️⃣ This idea came to mind when I saw a talk by @mathieu_mongin where he spoke about adding alkalinity to decrease ocean acidification on the Great Barrier Reef to take it back to conditions of the past.
— David Ho (@_david_ho_) February 3, 2022
4️⃣ When we look at things this way, once again, it's hard to see how stopping CO₂ emissions isn't easier.https://t.co/joIlpM8LQU
— David Ho (@_david_ho_) February 3, 2022
Permanent sequestration of 100,000 tonnes of CO₂ from the atmosphere each year for four years is impressive, but when you see that it’s a time machine that takes us back 1 minute and 21 seconds each year, it’s really not enough. https://t.co/q9pnasnFbO
— David Ho (@_david_ho_) March 17, 2022
Great minds. Large numbers are hard to relate to, whereas everyone experiences time so it makes sense to contextualize large numbers that way.
— David Ho (@_david_ho_) April 12, 2023
Study shows support for carbon removal but great concern over solar manipulation by Ulrich von Lampe, Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate Change (MCC) gGmbH, Phys.org, October 30, 2023
As of 2024, Germany isn't hitting its emissions targets, but is proposing to be a leader in carbon removal.
The first large-scale industrial carbon capture and storage facility in the US is reportedly leaking. The CCS operation at ADM's Decatur facility is meant to demonstrate that the technology can be deployed safely. 😶 www.reuters.com/sustainabili...
— Dr. Genevieve Guenther (@doctorvive.bsky.social) October 3, 2024 at 5:42 PM
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As always: there is excessive skepticism about readily deployable and scalable climate solutions, and excessive credulity about experimental ones (particularly those that preserve the status quo rather than requiring deeper systemic change) www.latimes.com/environment/...
— Ket-arbon Emissions Joshi (@ketanjoshi.co) October 25, 2024 at 2:57 AM
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A really very very spectacular run-through of how carbon removal advocates REALLY used to say the quiet part out loud: literally, 'we are doing this to keep fossil fuels going' by @wimcarton.bsky.social, who's got a book on this w/ Andreas Malm coming out in Oct -->>> youtu.be/jlQhV1ag8FI
— Ket-arbon Emissions Joshi (@ketanjoshi.co) May 28, 2024 at 11:51 AM
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See this:
"In the 1990s, hope – coupled with doubt – was the fossil fuel industry’s antidote to the precautionary principle, the sensible idea that some problems had such dire implications that humanity should err on the side of caution even if the science was not completely settled. When George Bush was president, he was initially so concerned by the impact of fossil fuels on the climate that he looked into regulating the oil industry. But he backed away from this on the grounds that future generations would probably develop new technologies to solve the problem. Call that dumb, call that wishful thinking, or call that hope, the result was the same: no action.
That once again looks to be the temptation of Britain’s Labour government in promising £22bn for carbon capture and storage projects. This technology is supposed to catch greenhouse gas emissions before they can enter the atmosphere. But it is incredibly expensive, has never worked at the necessary scale and, until now, has largely been a ruse for the petroleum industry to continue pumping."
— Jonathan Watts, Would abandoning false hope help us to tackle the climate crisis?, The Guardian, Oct 24, 2024
FOLKS this is why you keep versioned copies of important emissions and energy data!!!!!!!!! Equinor's reported carbon capture amounts have been quietly revised downwards after they fixed a faulty transmitter: www.desmog.com/2024/10/28/n...
— Ket-arbon Emissions Joshi (@ketanjoshi.co) October 28, 2024 at 6:24 AM
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Okay, I have to do a thread on this pretty amazing article because it is just seriously chockers with eye-opening stats about 'direct air capture' - ie, sucking up air and trying to remove carbon dioxide from it news.mit.edu/2024/reality...
— Ketan Joshi (@ketanjoshi.co) November 26, 2024 at 3:26 AM
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Capturing direct from combustion (CCS), vs from air: “The difference is akin to needing to find 10 red marbles in a jar of 25,000 marbles of which 24,990 are blue [the task representing DAC] versus needing to find about 10 red marbles in a jar of 100 marbles of which 90 are blue [the task for CCS]"
— Ketan Joshi (@ketanjoshi.co) November 26, 2024 at 3:28 AM
On the sheer volume of air you need to suck up: "Given that low concentration, removing a single metric ton (tonne) of CO2 from air requires processing about 1.8 million cubic meters of air, which is roughly equivalent to the volume of 720 Olympic-sized swimming pools" (or, ~2.2 tonnes of air)
— Ketan Joshi (@ketanjoshi.co) November 26, 2024 at 3:32 AM
more or less on this team. the model should be more like remediation after oil spills - funded via the stick of punitive litigation, rather than the carrot of tax credits or offset sales
— Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò (@olufemiotaiwo.bsky.social) November 27, 2024 at 8:52 AM
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