Thursday, November 23, 2023

Liz Wheeler: Trans people's genders are fake

Young America's Foundation (link: Wikipedia) put up a YouTube short titled "Liz Wheeler DEBUNKS Gender Ideology In Under 60 Seconds."

There is no such thing as gender ideology, but anyway, this video short is not a debunking of anything. In this video, Liz Wheeler makes declares that a statement she calls "gender ideology" is actually wrong because she has the right to question it and also because she already knows it's wrong. The end. Those two reasons contradict each other, and neither constitutes a debunking.

Thesis

Here's how she defines the claim of "gender ideology":

video still with caption: men can be women if they want to, and women can be men if they choose

She wants to ask a question, please

video still with caption: by what measurable standard
video still with caption: can a man say that he's a woman or can a woman say that he's a man

(Because asking a question isn't bad, she says)

video still with caption: that if you question in any way, shape or form, you are treated as a bigot

It's not bigoted, harmful or hateful to ask a question, she says:

video caption: it's none of those things to ask the question by what measurable

No, wait, she already knows the answer to her 'question', so — antithesis

video still with caption: and it can't simply be by someone's feelings
video still with caption: there has to be something tangible and concrete and we know what that is

"...and we know what that is."

OK, so she wasn't asking a question.

The debunking was not a debunking

This was just stating a proposition — A person can switch genders "if they want to" or "if they choose" — and then making a competing statement: "It can't simply be by someone's feelings. There has to be something tangible and concrete and we know what that is."

The question "By what standard..." is not a real question if you already "know what that [standard] is".

More, simply contradicting a statement is not a debunking of the statement.

Videogame streamer: 'No such thing as trans people'

On June 11, 2024, videogamer Nick Kolcheff aka 'Nickmercs', who streams to 7 million followers, went on an online rant in which he said:

"There’s no such thing as trans people. That’s something that you created...have fun in your little dreamland, but that s**t is not even real...I feel a certain way about all of that...I’ll remind these fucking people… that, again, the little dream fantasy bulls**t that they’re living in is not real life...And not everybody has to dance to their tune...You don’t get to go around and point your finger at people’s chest and say, ‘Hey! You live in my world. You think the way I think. You believe the way I believe!’ No, no, no. That’s not how that works...I don’t need people to agree with me."

(Twitch streamer Nickmercs slammed for saying there’s ‘no such thing as trans people’, Marcus Wratten, Pink News, June 12, 2024)

The fallacies are obvious. You may "feel a certain way" about someone else, but that itself does not entail that their life is a "dreamland" or "not real life." You may intensify your opinion and try to escalate it into a fight by insulting them as "these fucking people," but that doesn't prove your point. You may "think" or "believe" differently than someone else, but that doesn't mean "there’s no such thing" as the experiences, understandings, feelings, beliefs, or identity that person asserts and the way that they label themselves — or else, exactly what is it with which you disagree? Does Kolcheff disagree with the mere word choice because he insists that the word doesn't refer to anything? But clearly it does refer to something, because he also objects to people who live in a trans way as living in a "little dreamland," and I don't think he means it's merely a linguistic dreamland. Also, he complains that trans people are essentially directing others: "You live in my world," and he's hypocritically using as a pretext to say that his understanding of the world is the true understanding of the real world.

They say everything is fake

They say the governor's dog is fake.

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