Tuesday, July 16, 2024

J. D. Vance, vice presidential pick

J. D. Vance is Donald Trump's VP pick.

An exchange pointed out by Robert Reich, in which Vance distinguished himself from Pence:

George Stephanopoulos: “Had you been vice president on January 6th [2021], would you have certified the election results?”

J. D. Vance: “If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and so many others that we needed to have multiple slates of electors and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there.”

Vance was saying that the president shouldn't be picked by a vote.

Joshua P. Hill writes in New Means today:

"First and foremost, Vance is a danger to society and a proponent of violence of every kind. He is now the most politically successful member of a group known as the 'New Right' or National Conservatives. As Hannah Gurman recently wrote, they consider themselves to be the 'post-liberal' right that 'rejects liberal individualism and libertarian economics and promises to restore the centrality of religion, family, and nation to the conservative movement.'

What this New Right seeks to do is promote the rhetoric of economic populism, without promoting the reality of it, and simultaneously harness white racism and grievance politics. In doing so they hope to move the United States towards a more authoritarian future. These men, and they are almost all men, say that liberal democracy, classical liberalism, and modern conservatism have all failed, but rather than working towards real democracy they aim for a reversion to a system more akin to monarchy or feudalism. In a comprehensive piece for Vanity Fair that details this ecosystem, James Pogue spends a good amount of time on the ideological leader of the National Conservatives, Curtis Yarvin. Among other things, Yarvin has expressly written that he thinks we need a 'national CEO, [or] what’s called a dictator.'

Also:

"We know that Vance supports a national abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest ... and that he even wants police to track down those who leave their states to get abortions. We know he doesn’t believe in gay marriage and that he’s a proponent of white supremacist Great Replacement Theory. We know he wants mass deportations as soon as possible. ... He’s also against policies that would help everyone else. After building a career pretending to be an Appalachian whisperer (with a book that is ultimately dismissive and condescending) he now pretends to be a populist while being opposed to basic populist policies."
— Joshua P. Hill. Vance, violence, and the lie of unity. New Means (Substack). July 16, 2024.

Vance, the Guardian reminds us, "once feared Donald Trump might be 'America's Hitler'." Yet here he is, accepting the #2 slot on the ticket to him.

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"When asked to explain his worldview, Vance has cited his former boss, Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist who has written passionately against democracy (“I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible”), and Curtis Yarvin, a software developer turned blogger and provocateur who believes the United States should transition to monarchy (“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia”). Yarvin has also written favorably of human bondage (slavery, he once wrote, “is a natural human relationship”) and wondered aloud if apartheid wasn’t better for Black South Africans."

— Jamelle Bouie, Where Does JD Vance’s Ideology Really Come From?, NYT Aug. 10, 2024

It’s funny how JD Vance is getting all this shit for just saying out loud and recently what the Republican policy making elite believes and that’s it, he is Project 2025 bit if it were just A Guy

— Asawin Suebsaeng (@swin24.bsky.social) Jul 28, 2024 at 1:38 PM

Maybe he would have married a white woman, for the political tactics of it, to keep appealing to racist voters, if he'd known he'd be picked for vice president... Bluesky

...or maybe, in a sexist value framework in which marriage is a form of domination, his likely voters don't care so much about that.

JD Vance In 2021: 'We Have To Go To War' Against Idea Women Don't Have To Have Kids HuffPost

As Trump Runs From Project 2025, JD Vance Links Its Architects Directly To Him HuffPost

Vance's "incel platform" backfires AMANDA MARCOTTE Donald Trump's running mate once claimed people without children are "more sociopathic" Salon

"It’s one thing to suggest that childless people don’t understand how difficult it is to be a parent or what families need from society. It’s another to refer to people without children as 'sociopathic,' 'psychotic,' and 'deranged.'" — Melissa Ryan, Ctrl Alt Right Delete, August 4, 2024

Watched a clip from the JD Vance appearance rn, & a reporter was like, "Let's try something different, what makes you smile, what makes you happy?" and instead of answering like 'idk my kids, being VP,' whatever, he's like "I laugh at bogus questions from the media" ?? That is a weird answer, man!

— Preeti Chhibber (@runwithskizzers.bsky.social) Aug 7, 2024 at 12:36 PM

it's absolutely hilarious that authoritarians whose entire movement is built on a foundation of vile racist propaganda are mad about couch fucking jokes but not as hilarious as the mainstream journalists that can't tell the difference between couch fucking jokes and authoritarian propaganda

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— Karl Bode (@karlbode.bsky.social) Aug 8, 2024 at 9:12 AM

An extremely normal post from a campaign spokesman holy fucking shit wow

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— hammancheez (@hammancheez.bsky.social) Aug 8, 2024 at 8:23 AM

I’m sure those clutching their pearls about couch jokes will be all over this

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— Sarah Posner (@sarahposner.bsky.social) Aug 8, 2024 at 9:17 AM

The normalization of Trump because he represents white patriarchy is especially vulnerable to other perspectives from the same demographic, which is why Tim Walz is so disruptive to the idea that domination and exclusion is the only way for white men to exercise power or exist in politics.

— Kaitlin Has Had Enough (@gothamgirlblue.com) Aug 14, 2024 at 11:43 AM

A.R. Moxon (September 14, 2024):

"...we're learning a bunch of things about his [Vance's] real beliefs, which are a real creepshow nightmare of sweaty perseveration over women's fertility and the viability of their eggs and the need for women to fit into their proper role or else be treated as if they have no point, and stuff like that. But in recent days Vance has shown that sexism isn't his only bag; when it comes to racism, he is not a dabbler."

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