JD Vance is Donald Trump's VP pick.
An exchange pointed out by Robert Reich, in which Vance distinguished himself from Pence:
George Stephanopoulos: “Had you been vice president on January 6th [2021], would you have certified the election results?”
JD Vance: “If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and so many others that we needed to have multiple slates of electors and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there.”
Vance was saying that the president shouldn't be picked by a vote.
Joshua P. Hill writes in New Means today:
"First and foremost, Vance is a danger to society and a proponent of violence of every kind. He is now the most politically successful member of a group known as the 'New Right' or National Conservatives. As Hannah Gurman recently wrote, they consider themselves to be the 'post-liberal' right that 'rejects liberal individualism and libertarian economics and promises to restore the centrality of religion, family, and nation to the conservative movement.'
What this New Right seeks to do is promote the rhetoric of economic populism, without promoting the reality of it, and simultaneously harness white racism and grievance politics. In doing so they hope to move the United States towards a more authoritarian future. These men, and they are almost all men, say that liberal democracy, classical liberalism, and modern conservatism have all failed, but rather than working towards real democracy they aim for a reversion to a system more akin to monarchy or feudalism. In a comprehensive piece for Vanity Fair that details this ecosystem, James Pogue spends a good amount of time on the ideological leader of the National Conservatives, Curtis Yarvin. Among other things, Yarvin has expressly written that he thinks we need a 'national CEO, [or] what’s called a dictator.'
When I read @juliablack.bsky.social’s article about Curtis Yarvin, I knew that I had to have her back on the show and that we had to do it before the US election. We had a fascinating discussion that also shows why we’re right to be concerned about tech billionaires’ political ambitions.
— Paris Marx (@parismarx.bsky.social) October 17, 2024 at 8:39 AM
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Also:
"We know that Vance supports a national abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest ... and that he even wants police to track down those who leave their states to get abortions. We know he doesn’t believe in gay marriage and that he’s a proponent of white supremacist Great Replacement Theory. We know he wants mass deportations as soon as possible. ... He’s also against policies that would help everyone else. After building a career pretending to be an Appalachian whisperer (with a book that is ultimately dismissive and condescending) he now pretends to be a populist while being opposed to basic populist policies."
— Joshua P. Hill. Vance, violence, and the lie of unity. New Means (Substack). July 16, 2024.
Vance, the Guardian reminds us, "once feared Donald Trump might be 'America's Hitler'." Yet here he is, accepting the #2 slot on the ticket to him.
"When asked to explain his worldview, Vance has cited his former boss, Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist who has written passionately against democracy (“I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible”), and Curtis Yarvin, a software developer turned blogger and provocateur who believes the United States should transition to monarchy (“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia”). Yarvin has also written favorably of human bondage (slavery, he once wrote, “is a natural human relationship”) and wondered aloud if apartheid wasn’t better for Black South Africans."
— Jamelle Bouie, Where Does JD Vance’s Ideology Really Come From?, NYT Aug. 10, 2024
It’s funny how JD Vance is getting all this shit for just saying out loud and recently what the Republican policy making elite believes and that’s it, he is Project 2025 bit if it were just A Guy
— Asawin Suebsaeng (@swin24.bsky.social) Jul 28, 2024 at 1:38 PM
Maybe he would have married a white woman, for the political tactics of it, to keep appealing to racist voters, if he'd known he'd be picked for vice president... Bluesky
...or maybe, in a sexist value framework in which marriage is a form of domination, his likely voters don't care so much about that.
JD Vance In 2021: 'We Have To Go To War' Against Idea Women Don't Have To Have Kids HuffPost
As Trump Runs From Project 2025, JD Vance Links Its Architects Directly To Him HuffPost
"It’s one thing to suggest that childless people don’t understand how difficult it is to be a parent or what families need from society. It’s another to refer to people without children as 'sociopathic,' 'psychotic,' and 'deranged.'" — Melissa Ryan, Ctrl Alt Right Delete, August 4, 2024
Watched a clip from the JD Vance appearance rn, & a reporter was like, "Let's try something different, what makes you smile, what makes you happy?" and instead of answering like 'idk my kids, being VP,' whatever, he's like "I laugh at bogus questions from the media" ?? That is a weird answer, man!
— Preeti Chhibber (@runwithskizzers.bsky.social) Aug 7, 2024 at 12:36 PM
it's absolutely hilarious that authoritarians whose entire movement is built on a foundation of vile racist propaganda are mad about couch fucking jokes but not as hilarious as the mainstream journalists that can't tell the difference between couch fucking jokes and authoritarian propaganda
— Karl Bode (@karlbode.bsky.social) Aug 8, 2024 at 9:12 AM
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An extremely normal post from a campaign spokesman holy fucking shit wow
— hammancheez (@hammancheez.bsky.social) Aug 8, 2024 at 8:23 AM
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I’m sure those clutching their pearls about couch jokes will be all over this
— Sarah Posner (@sarahposner.bsky.social) Aug 8, 2024 at 9:17 AM
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The normalization of Trump because he represents white patriarchy is especially vulnerable to other perspectives from the same demographic, which is why Tim Walz is so disruptive to the idea that domination and exclusion is the only way for white men to exercise power or exist in politics.
— Kaitlin Has Had Enough (@gothamgirlblue.com) Aug 14, 2024 at 11:43 AM
A.R. Moxon (September 14, 2024):
"...we're learning a bunch of things about his [Vance's] real beliefs, which are a real creepshow nightmare of sweaty perseveration over women's fertility and the viability of their eggs and the need for women to fit into their proper role or else be treated as if they have no point, and stuff like that. But in recent days Vance has shown that sexism isn't his only bag; when it comes to racism, he is not a dabbler."
Chanucey DeVega: "How are you making sense of JD Vance and his “Hillbilly Elegy” narrative?"
Arlie Hochschild: "One Trump voter told me, “Vance is a drag on our ticket.” Others accepted Vance but don’t like him, mainly because his book criticizes hillbillies for their “bad choices” and flawed culture and celebrates his own desperate escape out of it.
Ironically, Vance's speeches invite America’s women to take a path that would trap them in the very same circumstances that led his own mother — pregnant at 13 to become the trapped, depressed, addicted single mother she became — all of which shaped the traumatic boyhood Vance hated and fled. But speaking now as the vice presidential candidate on the Trump ticket, Vance advises America’s women to have babies — to avoid the stigma of being “childless cat ladies.” Otherwise, he says they won’t grow up to care about America’s future.
He also tells women to have their babies young — don’t wait until you need in vitro fertilization. Then if she has an unwanted pregnancy, don’t look to him or the Republican Party for any help. Should she become depressed and turn to drugs, again, Vance would seem to be saying, “more bad choices.” He says nothing about public dollars for drug recovery, job retraining, or other social services. So, while celebrating his own great escape from his mother’s trauma, it seems Vance’s views and policies, if enacted, would return all the rest of the nation’s women to the same bleak “choices” faced by his 13-year-old mom."
— "Pride paradox": Sociologist Arlie Hochschild on Trump's manipulation of white working class voters: "Trump brilliantly prospected for white, blue-collar shame, found it, converted shame to blame and set it on fire," Chauncey DeVega, Salon, September 30, 2024
it’s actually crazy that the press just doesn’t care about this? like, one of the biggest influences on a man who might be a heartbeat away from the presidency is a psychotic racist!
— jamelle (@jamellebouie.net) October 5, 2024 at 8:14 PM
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Apparently, in 2020, Vance messaged a Deloitte employee and said that Trump “thoroughly failed to deliver” his economic agenda. Obviously this is now embarrassing to Vance. Someone at Deloitte leaked the message. Trump allies want the federal government to punish Deloitte.
— Deloitte feels the wrath of Trump world over employee’s leaked JD Vance messages, Matt Egan, CNN, October 8, 2024
On Oct 11, a video clip was released "from an upcoming podcast episode with The New York Times’ Lulu Garcia-Navarro, Vance refused five times to say whether he backs Trump’s conspiracy theory about that year’s vote, even though the former Republican president continues to espouse the claim as he campaigns to retake the White House." (HuffPost)
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