Tuesday, September 24, 2024

Talking about transphobia (September 2024)

'Legislators don’t see me as human’: Missouri trans youth fight to survive www.theguardian.com/us-news/arti...

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— Tiffa (@tranniehathaway.bsky.social) August 24, 2024 at 2:25 PM
surprised blonde kid

On a fundamental level anti-trans bigotry is incompatible with capital "L" Liberalism: you do not have to give any more deference to these folks than you would to racists, antisemites, or xenophobes.

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— Stephen Nuñez (@socio-steve.bsky.social) September 23, 2024 at 6:00 PM

So much of it is just “I don’t believe trans people are real, REALLY.” Which is not an argument. It’s just a declaration that I happen to think is bad and wrong. I don’t need to hear it a magic number of times to really decide.

— Linda Holmes (@lindaholmes.bsky.social) September 23, 2024 at 6:22 PM

on the rare occasions trans women are allowed to participate in the national discourse, we are siloed as ‘trans activists’, whatever we actually do for a living. meanwhile, people who dedicate massive portions of their lives to campaigning against us get to be ‘feminists’, ‘authors’, ‘experts’, etc.

— Alyson Greaves (@badambulist.bsky.social) September 24, 2024 at 5:56 AM

Echo chamber

The article that kicked off a fresh round of "echo chamber" discourse:

"...fair enough. ... Why not have a place on the internet that you can go and have a nice, civilised chat with someone who shares your worldview without the risk of coming across a load of vile racist content?" Because, Kelly says, "I believe" a "messier" platform that's more of a "digital town square" just is "preferable to a series of siloed echo chambers."
— "With Bluesky, the social media echo chamber is back in vogue," Jemima Kelly, Financial Times, Sept 22, 2024 (archive link)

"IRL do you expect to sit down at a table of your friends and have a stranger grab a seat and shout racist and/or sexist epithets at you and everyone you're with? ... The people complaining about echo chambers don't want a party. They want an awkward family dinner. ... the only way they can get people to listen to them is if they're forced to because they're creepy weirdos. I'm convinced they don't even like one another or else they'd go have their own party." (Bluesky 1, 2, 3)

"debate perverts" is an incredibly funny name for that kind of person, I gotta keep that one in my back pocket

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— Maddy B. Hare 🏴⚧️ (@mbhare.bsky.social) September 22, 2024 at 7:48 PM

"i just cannot get over someone writing an op-ed about wishing for a social media platform with a diversity of viewpoints, who then recoils when people with different viewpoints weigh in. i cannot i cannot i cannot" (Bluesky)

absolutely incredible how journalists cannot take ultimately toothless online criticism from trans women when we have to take the full force of the institutional media to the face every time they whisper to the government that taking more rights away from trannies would be good for pageviews

— Alyson Greaves (@badambulist.bsky.social) September 24, 2024 at 5:55 AM

If someone says you're in AN ECHO CHAMBER, they almost always want to be transphobic or racist without consequence. Yet they never ACTUALLY think anything transgressive. Instead, their hate is utterly bog standard. Biological sex is real? I've never heard THAT one before, brave truth-teller.

— Emily St. James (@emilystjams.bsky.social) September 23, 2024 at 6:14 PM

These people operate on the same principle as evangelical Christians who believe that anyone who isn't a Christian just hasn't heard the truth about Jesus. Most people have at this point! They've just rejected the message!

— Emily St. James (@emilystjams.bsky.social) September 23, 2024 at 6:15 PM

The views they want to share are never, like, "I believe all private property should become property of the community" or "The family unit should be abolished" or "Animals should have human rights" or anything actually transgressive. It's always stuff that was old hat _when I was born_.

— Emily St. James (@emilystjams.bsky.social) September 23, 2024 at 6:17 PM
A social media post by Charlotte Clymer: Every transphobic argment can basically be boiled down to: I actually don't know the science at all or have a good argument here, but trans people challenge my long held view of the world and it's very uncomfortable and everyone should be expected to move around my discomfort.

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